Showing posts with label hot water heat. Show all posts
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Monday, November 24, 2014

Optimus H-1322 Portable 2-Speed Fan Heater with Thermostat Reviews

Optimus H-1322 Portable 2-Speed Fan Heater with Thermostat
Customer Ratings: 4.5 stars
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This little heater didn't look like much on the shelf at the store where I bought it--plastic casing looked flimsy, and I worried it wouldn't last. The 3-year warranty, however, gave me a boost of consumer confidence, and I decided to give it a shot. When I got home and took it out of the box, I was disappointed. The casing indeed looked flimsy, and I expected the unit be bigger, especially in terms of depth, based on the dimensions of the box.

I was surprised then when it turned out to pack quite a punch! It warmed up its surroundings immediately, and I ended up leaving it on all night--it kept the room comfortably warm all night. It doesn't seem flimsy at all any more--just a lightweight unit that does a surprisingly good job! With confidence borne of the 3-year warranty, I'm entirely satisfied with my purchase. I'm glad I took a chance on this little heater.

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IT is ok, but not as nice and warm as the radiant Optimus I bought last year but was recalled. It is nice and small, good right next to my chair and I do like the cooling fan part in case It gets a little to warm in the room. Very light weight and easy to use.

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Monday, October 13, 2014

Reviews of Queen Size 60 x 80 Softside Cotton Pillow Top Waterbed Mattress

Queen Size 60 x 80 Softside Cotton Pillow Top Waterbed Mattress with Heater, Liner, Bladder, Electric Pump, Fill Kit & Conditioner
Customer Ratings: 4 stars
List Price: $1,299.00
Sale Price: $849.00
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This is a wonderful mattress and I'm thrilled with it! It turned my normal queen sized platform bed into a waterbed, giving me the best of both worlds. This mattress allows you to pick the bed you want, buy normal sheets, and still have a waterbed.

The water bladder is well protected. There are foam side rails that are at least 2 inches thick and there is a soft pillow on top of it that's easily an inch thick. This is great for people like me who have cats because it's impossible for my cats to knead the bed with their claws and puncture the mattress.

The only "problem" that I have with it is the instructions say to put the zipper end at the foot of your bed and you have to run the power cord for the heater out through the zipper so you can't close the zipper completely. I flipped the mattress so the zipper end is at the headboard so that the power cord for the heater is next to the wall instead of in the middle of the room.

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Sunday, August 31, 2014

Buy Kitty Draft Guard

Kitty Draft Guard
Customer Ratings: 5 stars
List Price: $9.99
Sale Price: $7.99
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The kitty fits perfectly in my window and is cute. My mom really likes it and maybe I should get her one for Xmas.

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This is the perfect item if you have an odd size door. It easily folds at the end and can fit any size door.

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Long enough, just wish it were a little heavier, but it does the job. Now if the cats would only leave the whiskers alone ...

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Sunday, August 24, 2014

Reviews of Dimplex AC6N 4500/6000-Watt Electric Downflow Heater

Dimplex AC6N 4500/6000-Watt Electric Downflow Heater
Customer Ratings: 4 stars
List Price: $685.00
Sale Price: $180.01
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These are entry level heaters, not real high quality but perfect for our situation. Fast, Cheap and high quality you can only have two of the three at the same time.

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Thursday, July 17, 2014

Review of Luma Comfort EC220W High Power 1650 CFM Evaporative Cooler with 650

Luma Comfort EC220W High Power 1650 CFM Evaporative Cooler with 650 Square Foot Cooling
Customer Ratings: 4.5 stars
List Price: $498.33
Sale Price: $399.99
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Bought this cooler for our barn, which is, of course, much bigger than the 600 square foot area this cooler is supposed to cover, but it made a huge difference when we had many, many 90 degree days this summer. The cooler not only cooled but provided some much needed moisture in a very dry environment (Colorado) and with a few additional fans to circulate the cool moist air from this Luma Evaporative Cooler, it was a very satisfying investment!

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This is my first swamp cooler. A neighbor lent me an older Bonair which did not cool as much as this unit (panel to small). I chose this model because of its capacity to cool up to 650 sq. feet. A swamp cooler is only as effective as the size of the panels and yet sellers don't mention it which is odd. I've been using it for 10 days:

Pros: large water tank, the back panel is 19x16" and the 2 side panels are 8x23", it cools enough to make it pleasant, there is no smell; the noise level is acceptable to me.

Cons: the wheels don't move well, water/ice inlet is too small it can only hold about 8 ice cubes, too expensive for what it is; there is no remote control or pump shut off if the water gets too low. It comes with one small hose adapter that attaches to the back.

I live in the Mojave and it's around 100F now and that also means that our city water is lukewarm. I bought a 2 gallon watering can and add ice and water before I fill up the tank and I add extra ice to the water inlet. The more ice the colder the air. Not for the lazy but better for the environment and the wallet. I gave it 4 stars because it does cool and because of the large holding tank and panels.

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we have a home bakery business and live in northern ca. a/c doesn't work as there is no humiditiy to speak of in the summer. when we bake and it's 90+ degrees outside, it's the only way to keep us and the house cool

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First, I want to start by saying how impressed I am with Amazon! I ordered this product 7/4/13 around 10 o'clock at night. I received it today at about 1 o'clock pm! It wasn't a full 48 hours! AWESOME AMAZON! I'm a believer!

Now, about the product. I had recently purchased a Kuul Aire evaporative cooler. I received that unit when temperatures were about 80 degrees. Once the Bakersfield, CA 110 degree weather kicked in, that device didn't stand a chance. It only blew hot air and made no difference in my home. I sent it back needless to say. I do not have AC in my home, but an evaporative cooler that sits on top of my house which doesn't work too well alone. So I decided to get another cooler to help the main cooler.

After going to Home Depot and Lowes and not finding evaporative coolers within my 450 dollar price range that gave over 600 square feet of air and coolness coverage. I came back to Amazon once again.

Luma Comfort is just that (Comfort) for severely dry climates and hot temperatures. It has three speed settings, a swing setting and an option to use it as a fan. The only inconvenient feature is the small water input slot. Also, it's extremely large so make sure that you have room for it's size if you're going to be using it in the home. However, it does have a water hose connector just in case you want to have a constant flow of water. Typically, this item is used outside but it's so hot in my house that I needed something effective and powerful. The Luma is not as quiet as I would like for it to be but I don't mind sacrificing the volume of my television for coolness!

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Last summer (in CO) in the place I rented there was no ac and no basement to escape the blistering heat. It got so hot that the thermostat was reading 90+ inside! I was really afraid for my dogs. This year I bought the Luma Comfort 1650 before the hot temps started and when it arrived I was a little shocked at how big it is. My next thought was: how was I going to get it in the house (I'm not a big person). It was a bit of a struggle, but I finally got it in and once I got it set up and filled with water (this was all VERY easy to do) and turned it on.

I was a bit skeptical (ok, ALOT skeptical) as to whether this thing was really going to keep the house cool, but it really does! going through these heat waves when it's 95-100 outside, it can keep it around 77 inside. Not chilly, very liveable. If you sit right in front of the thing you will get cold, though. You do have to monitor the water level and not allow it to get to the min point. I usually re-fill around the halfway point, but I can be gone for 6 hours and come home and the house is nice and cool, the dogs are comfortable and the water level is just slightly below the mid point.

Another nice side effect is that it adds moisture to the house. One thing to note is that it will keep my DOWNstairs cool, but since cool air doesn't rise, it does nothing for the UPstairs. I ordered a smaller unit to have in the bedroom. All in all, I think this is a great product (wish it were made in America instead of China).

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Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Review of Secura 4-Quart Electric Water Boiler and Warmer AirPot, 18/10

Secura 4-Quart Electric Water Boiler and Warmer AirPot SWB-43G, 18/10 Stainless Steel Interior
Customer Ratings: 4 stars
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We just had a newborn and in need a water heater so we can have access to boiled water 24/7. Those 1.5 Liter water kettles can not keep up with the workload, 4 Liter is the perfect capacity. We can not use our Zojirushi because of the chemical coatings on the interior. We do not want to take any risk, the interior has to be stainless steel, absolutely no plastic.

We are glad we purchased this water heater. The interior pot is made of stainless steel. There is a night light under the sprout turns on when the water dispense is unlocked. The light illuminates the area right under the sprout, it is so convenient for us to prepare formula in the night without turning on all the lights. The night light also tells you approximately where the water will be dispensed at.

The other feature I really like is the 3D dispense button. The dispense button is big with chrome finish. My old zojirushi dispense button is one layer of PVC plastic that close to wearing out after a few years. The 3D dispense button on this secura water heater is easy to access and hard to miss.

The water dispense starts slow and after a few seconds the flow volume increases, so the water does not splash out. Another very nice feature that we really love.

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My previous hot water pot suddenly gave up the ghost; its pump simply died. That was annoying, it would heat up just fine, but no way to dispense the water save ladling it out with a soup ladle. We did get about five years of constant use but I was not going to buy the same brand. After a lot of research, I could find complaints on any brand but this one seemed to have a lot of features and no bad reviews (so far.) I got the stainless and white model; it also has a black version.

First, this has a lot more features than my previous model the Sunpentown 3 Litre Hot Pot. This model has a choice of temperatures (from 208 to 194 to 175F.) There is a dispensing lock. When unlocked, an orange light is lit and not only is the light indicating you can dispense water, but it lights up underneath as well. I noticed when I was filling my teapot, it made it easier to see the water level in the pot.

There is a gauge to show water level and a beep tells you that water has reached temperature. The dispensing button itself is a hefty wide lever on the top, not a button under a membrane. Already, I'm liking this model a whole lot more than my previous one, and the price is about the same. The inside is stainless steel and the capacity is 4 liters or about a gallon. So it does take longer to heat up than the 3 liter model I had before.

There are two speeds for dispensing, which you can choose underneath. The unit will automatically shut off if there is insufficient water inside. And there is a descaling cycle. The outside is warm, insulated from the inside. It is not cold, but is pleasantly warm and you can touch it while the pot is on.

That's a lot of features and so far, I'm very pleased. It is superior to my old one and it's nice to have a supply of hot water for tea all evening and weekend long.

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This is an amazing water boiler, my old boiler is still working but the Teflon coating on the inner pot starts to come off. May be I did not clean the pot as often as should. I got this boiler with stainless steel, hopefully I do not have to worry about the issues with coatings. So far it has been great, I like the thermostat settings. It boils water to 212 degree and keeps boiling for a few minutes to kills all the germs and softens water. And you can choose to keep warm at 208, 194, 175 degree, and you can set it to auto cool which does not use electric to keep warm. If you do not care about the water temperature like us, choose auto cool. It saves energy and water still keeps warm all day.

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This is my second air pot purchase. My first air pot was an inexpensive one with no temperature control. I figured "Why do I need temperature control? It's going to boil water then keep it hot so I can have tea without waiting for a kettle to boil." I was so very, very wrong.

You see, I live in Denver, the "Mile High" city. I realize many things I purchase; cake mixes mostly, have directions for high altitude cooking that I usually ignore. They turn out fine anyway. But an air pot is different than a cake. It does only one thing. It boils water then keeps it warm. Here water boils at about 202*, 10* less than sea level.

Most air pots come from Japan which is most definitely sea level.

The first air pot NEVER stopped boiling. It was desperately attempting to reach 212*F and all it was succeeding at was adding moisture to our air, which admittedly we need but not what I bought it for. I returned it with disappointment and spent the time awaiting my refund looking at other air pots.

I believed, during that time, I was going to be stuck ordering the Zojirushi at twice the price because it was the same one as my mother in law's, the person who showed me how wonderful air pots are. Then I came across this. It was much less expensive so, with Amazon's return policy having worked out well once, I thought I would give it a try. It arrived, I filled it up, set it to 194* though the box proclaimed it boiled water to 212*, and then waited for all the water to boil away once again. The water came to a boil and I walked away. It was going to take a long time to boil away 4L of water, but to my surprise it beeped a short time later! My water was boiled and not being held at 194*. I emptied it, filled it again and got the same result, plus it had gone through the recommended couple of boils to clean it out.

It has been only five days but the family is in love. There are three ways to dispense; a button on top, a manual pump, and the convenient little cup button underneath. And the light is a nice touch and a big, orange light lets you know when it is unlock for dispensing and it doesn't stay unlocked for too long; excellent when there are little button pushers running around the house. It also seems to be keeping the water at a consistent temperature, but I will have to simply trust it on that as my candy thermometer claims it being kept at 238*F. I think I can safely assume that that needs replaced (and would explain why my last batch of fudge turned out so horribly).

Condensed version of this; great air pot, highly recommended!

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The overall construction and operation of the product is very good. Water can be pumped out using either the electric pump or the manual pump at the top.

The interior is all stainless steel which is the reason I bought this one. However, after a week of boiling and cleaning, I could still taste plastic in the water. So I dissembler it to investigate. It turned out the problem is with the lid. The hot steam gets into the lid and then condenses inside the lid. The inside of the lid is made of plastic parts; only the part you can see is made of stainless steel. The steam condenses on the plastic and then back-flows into the pot and therefore contaminating the water.

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Saturday, March 1, 2014

Cheap Comfort Glow EF4534KD Springdale Electric Fireplace

Comfort Glow EF4534KD Springdale Electric Fireplace
Customer Ratings: 5 stars
List Price: $199.00
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I received this as a Christmas present and absolutely love this product. It was easy to assemble. Our home is 1820 sq feet and this product is in our living room. I have been able to keep my thermostat on my central unit on 68 degrees. This heater heats a large portion of our home, about 840 sq ft. Not only does it distribute the heat well, it is beautiful. Now I am just waiting on my electric bill and am hoping to see a decrease. I will update about that later.

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I love this unit... Not as big as some electric fireplace units but we set ours up on a corner table in the livingroom and it looks great! The wood is beautiful. Our visitors have all commented on how nicely our new (electric) fireplace looks and how it has brought a warm, cozy, and inviting autmosphere into our home.

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It is plain, but that's what we wanted. Our bedroom is 14 x 20 and it heats it pretty well. Can't shut off the flame simulation that"s why it got 4 stars.

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We are very happy with this electric fireplace. It provides just the right amount of heat for the space and makes the room feel very cozy.

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Friday, February 28, 2014

iLIVING Infrared Portable Space Heater with Dual Heating System Review

iLIVING Infrared Portable Space Heater with Dual Heating System, 1500W, Remote Control, Dark Walnut Wooden Cabinet
Customer Ratings: 4 stars
List Price: $189.99
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We live in a very old and very drafty farm house and needed a product that would help ease the high energy costs associated with a tough New York winter. This little unit fit the bill. It works great, heats evenly and quietly. Very satisfied!!!!!

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We did a lot of research before buying and am pleased to say these are exceptional for the money. Being that this heater is a duplicate knock off of the Dr. Heater we knew we were getting great heaters. We purchased our 1st one last fall and it's still going strong so decided to add another to combat the rising energy costs. We have electric baseboard heaters and they are too expensive to use. The automatic thermostats are very accurate and the heaters are easy to operate. You do have to let the heater run for a short while to burn off the oil smell. We heat a smaller ranch style home with these 2 and they keep the house at a nice comfy temp. I would recommend these heaters over the higher priced heaters to everyone.

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I have had my heater now for a week and it works GREAT. We are toasty warm in our 800 sq ft area downstairs area. upstairs is not bad eaither but will be getting another to put upstairs before the real cold hits. It does have a oder at first like some others have said but it was only for a little while ( like a hour ) then it was perfectly fine. my husband is very impressed and gave me a >>> good job honey. :) We love the heater and i will repost after a month or two to let you all know how the electric bill is after running it. I have heard it doesnt sky rocket your electric bill. so we will see... :)

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I live in MI in a 560 SF apartment, This unit replaced my 3 ceramic space heaters and is doing an excellent job.

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This was a great investment for our 1 bedroom flat in town. Saved us a lot of money because it is so efficient. We never had to turn on our main source of heat at all.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2014

Lasko 5905 Pro-Ceramic Utility Heater with Thermostat Reviews

Lasko 5905 Pro-Ceramic Utility Heater with Thermostat
Customer Ratings: 5 stars
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I just use it to warm my workspace and feet in cold weather. It's a real powerhouse compared to what I'm been using. I like also that you can aim it at the cold desktop (which means you must pick it up and tilt it) and it doesn't shut off. Very high quality product.

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Lasko is one of the 'top dogs' when it comes to air movement....both on cold or warm days. Very nice design.

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We love it and planning to order another. Works for our 26 foot camper just right, our puppy loves it!

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Purchased for use in our RV. Haven't been out yet so not sure heating qualities in use. Time will tell. Everything looks good, dials work as they are supposed to. Seems to be quality product.

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Saturday, December 14, 2013

Buy World Marketing PP215 Air Filter Kit

World Marketing PP215 Air Filter Kit
Customer Ratings: 5 stars
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I put this in my 1978 sears heater and it works Great ! i didint replace my fuel filter as my heater has a filter screen in the fuel fill.I couldnt believe this fits a heater that old ! just make sure when you replace air filters that you torque the screws evenly all around to prevent air leaks.And scrape all old gasket material off the pump.

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Sunday, November 17, 2013

Discount Minuteman International WR-02H Ash Hoe

Minuteman International WR-02H Ash Hoe
Customer Ratings: 5 stars
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Heavy wroght iron ash rake, nice blade on the end, great for my deep wood stove. Good finish, welds on blade look good as well, should last a long time. Handle is comfortable to grip as well.

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Saturday, November 9, 2013

Intermatic PF1102T Freeze Protection Timer with Thermostat Review

Intermatic PF1102T Freeze Protection Timer with Thermostat
Customer Ratings: 4.5 stars
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The MOST IMPORTANT POINT.....most people post a 5 star review after they receive a product, install it and it works. They are happy and they give a product 5 stars for working after they take it out of the box. This review is after 21 months of careful testing.

I have pages of handwritten and collected data on the problem with this freeze protection probe. But I will try to be concise here.

The Timer itself generates warmth when in the metal weather proof box. This causes the temperature to rise inside the weatherproof box and causes the freeze protection copper tube that runs through the box to cut off the pump, thinking it is now warmer than freezing, even if the outside air temperature is still below freezing. Now, once the timer is off, the box cools down and then in 20 minutes or so, the Freeze Protection will cut the pump back on and it will run until the temperature in the box rises again and it cuts off the Freeze Protection switch.

This results in your pumps turning on and running for 30 minutes and then turning off for 20 minutes, then running for 30 minutes and then turning off for 20 minutes. Ultimately, this will keep your equipment from freezing, but it doesn't really work like it is supposed to. It is better for the electric pump to come on and run for the 6 hours you go below freezing, instead of this on and off pattern.

I spent a lot of time with Intermatic Service Techs on the phone. I was obsessed with making this thing work. Mainly because I had paid $155 for this item then paid a pool electrician to professionally install it and that led to a bill of about $300 total. So I wanted it to work.

The best thing about Intermatic is that you can still get someone on the phone, if you are patient and willing to go through all of the phone menus and call backs.

First, they had me run the copper tube that works the freeze protection outside of the weatherproof box, using one of the bottom round punch outs on the bottom of the box. I put the copper tube in a short piece of electrical conduit, to protect it. Following their instructions to a tee.

Second, they sent me a new freeze protection switch. I installed the new one and got the same results.

Third, they sent me a new relay switch. I installed the new one and got the same results.

Fourth, the only part I had not replaced is the actual timer and it seemed to be working fine, so they were reluctant to send me one. The timer doesn't seem to generate too much heat, since the temperature inside of the box is below freezing when the freeze protection kicks in. It is once it kicks in, that the heat begins to build.

We ended our Customer Service Journey with the Intermatic tech suggesting I drill a hole in the side of the metal weather proof box and run the copper tube out the side of the box and down, to eliminate the 6 to 8 inches of copper tube that are exposed to the heat inside of the box, when you run it out the bottom of the box. You might have to be looking at the guts of the unit for this to make sense. But the copper tube starts at the top of the box and runs to the bottom and out a hole in the bottom of the box and then down another 18 inches or so, inside of electrical conduit. The electrical conduit and nut are not provided with this unit. That was something I picked up at the hardware store.

I have not tried this solution, because it would expose the fragile copper vein to damage. Since it would no longer be hanging inside of the electrical conduit that fastens to the bottom of the box. It would just be running out the side of the box and dangling down from the hole I punched in the side.

Maybe this would fix the problem, because only a few inches would be exposed to the heat inside of the box and more of it would be exposed to the cold outside of the box.

You can do the same thing by going out and opening up the door to the weatherproof box and leaving it open when you are expecting freezing weather. This allows the Freeze Protection to work like it should, because it comes on and runs continuously until the outside temperature warms up. I have tested this and it works.

I know you are probably thinking that seems like an easy fix, why I am complaining. But remember, with the door open, you no longer have the protection from water that you paid for, when you bought the metal weatherproof box. And my box is exposed to the elements, that is why I wanted the nice metal box.

Intermatic was willing to seek a solution with me and sent me several parts over 12 months. In the end, I believe it to be a design flaw and not a problem with the actual electrical parts. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to buy the separate freeze protection mechanism by itself and install it in its own separate weatherproof box. That way, the heat from the timer and relay would not interfere with copper tubing that turns the freeze protection mechanism on and off. They do sale the separate freeze control on Amazon. If anyone tries it, please let me know. Of course, you then have 2 weatherproof boxes on your wall, instead of just the one combo unit. So there are pluses and minuses, but it should allow the freeze protection to work.

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This is a really great product. I decided that instead of installing myself I would hire an electrician.

BE AWARE the thermostat has a copper tube sensor that looks EXACTLY like a standard ground wire. My electrician thought it was a ground wire and cut it short and wired it accordingly!

Once that copper tube is cut the timer is shot and I have to order the replacement thermostat for an additional $45.

Make sure you don't make the same mistake.

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Starts pump at higher temps than I like but then again I don't get hard freezes at all. Just have it in case I forget to leave pump on when it gets below 32 a couple times a year.

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Great product, been working great for a few months now. So easy to set up and runs like clock work!!

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It was excactly as described and the instructions were easy to follow. I had it installed with the new conduit and wire is less than an hour

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Monday, October 28, 2013

Buy PayandPack - Replacement Fireplace Fan Blower + Infrared Heating

PayandPack - Replacement Fireplace Fan Blower + Infrared Heating Elements for Heat Surge Real Flame electric fireplace insert
Customer Ratings: 4.5 stars
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I purchased the roll and glow fireplace from HSN. Love it, it really keeps my living room warm and I do not have to run the base board heater, which saved me over $100 heating cost per month. However, I did not purchase the filter for the Roll and Glow and too much dust got into the heating element and caused it to go out. I thought that I was going to have to purchase a whole new unit. But just by chance I thought that I would check Amazon to see if a replacement fan blower and heating element could be purchased. I purchased the replacement part. My brother and I removed the old unit and put in the new one and we are up and going. Works wonderfully. So happy with this product! Also, it was not too difficult to install, I did not see any directions in the package, but everything just plugs in to the electronic panel on the fireplace. We just mapped which wire went where, because the stock element was the exact same as the replacement, unplugged the old (which was not that easy, take your time with it) and plugged in the new element which was a breeze. Thank you!

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Ordered this one for a spair and two days after receiving it one of my other units failed. Was just the ticket to make the repairs. also ordered Thermal fuse 110 degrees Celsius. just in case another fan failed and blew the thermal fuse..

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I figure the labor charge and the gas burned from taking it to a repair center, (nearest one to me is 25 miles), would have at least tripled what it cost me to just do it myself. The connections are very tight, even taking my time I still managed to pull one of the wires out of the connector, giving myself an additional small repair job.

Wife happy to have heater working again = priceless

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I use this product in repairing heater and find the quality to be excellent and the cost to be quite reasonable. I would recommend this product.

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PayandPack replacement does not fit and doesn't work, of course! Haven't totally given up yet. When we have the time we'll try to make it work again...

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